Fresh Air - Best Of: Making ‘La Bola Negra’ / 'New Yorker' cartoonists lament their kitchens

Spanish filmmakers Javier Calvo and Javier Ambrossi (Los Javis) turned an unfinished play by a gay poet murdered during Spain's Civil War into a sweeping epic. La Bola Negra tells the story of three generations of gay men. They spoke with Tonya Mosley about the making of the film. 

Also, New Yorker cartoonists Roz Chast and Jason Adam Katzenstein talk with Terry Gross about their embarrassment and shame over their kitchens.Their new graphic book is The Two Saddest Kitchens.

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